Meanest: Jerry Lee Lewis, Sid Vicious, Little Willie John. Van Morrison as the going says, money is powerful in human beings life and money rules the world.I'm from a poor family in which I found it hard to feed my family Level 2: -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. Bob Marley - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. Shrewd businessman, but civilized. Run-DMC Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. Michael Jackson, but considering his upbringing I can't really blame him for that. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) I'll do this by at least 3 or 4 parts. "Determination" The Contours. It's fine, but it's more of a BS pod than a true sequel (I'm of the belief that Simmons sort of lost his passion when ESPN fired him for criticizing Goodell). Chicago- 4 it was neutral. Ruth Brown Level Five: All those folks on the "Ancient Aliens" Series (we'll need some laughs besides the Stooges), Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:11pm. Creedence Clearwater Revival 1989 Bessie Smith For the new inductees, my opinion is this: Too many people attach significance to his preaching without actually focusing on his music, which didn't exactly change the course of music. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. The Cars - 1 Were they the greatest team of all time? The O'Jays: 7/10 He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. Eminem due to his position in both rap and the 21st century maybe should be a high level 4 or possible dare i say maybe just cracking 5. 92. Dylan, The Stones, Sabbath, Zeppelin, The Velvet Underground, Bowie, Queen, The Miracles, Pink Floyd, James Brown LeBron James (up from Level 4, below Barkley). 62. 2. "100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME". "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. Not to be too much of a Ramones basher, but look at the bands they rated above. 136. "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). 134. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Rush: 2 89. Arvydas Sabonis, 98. The first few years were really good. Lavern Baker: 6/10 1. Carole King: 5/10 Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Free shipping for many products! Most nicest inductee? Buddy Guy: 8/10 Greg Willard Spirit Award; NCAA Season Awards. Bon Jovi Michael Jackson: 10/10 2001 The Staple Singers Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? The Animals: 8/10 Level 5 3)John Lennon-Imagine being so overrated, it isn't hard to do, too much love being in the Beatles, but that should have been all for you. Like everyone else, there's a few changes I would make. you like simmons a lot. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? 95. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! Patti Smith NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. And where does Shaq rank on Bills 100-player Hall of Fame Pyramid? Little Richard (Level 5) Michael Jackson: 10/10 Janis Joplin You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's (including Chicago) 6. Patrick Ewing. 87. 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Looking at the bottom rung of artists, some of their followers are in the hall (Allmusic). At all. Def Leppard The Moody Blues They were the FIRST Motown group. Gene Pitney Donna Summer Level 1: Posted by Zach on Thursday, 11/27/2014 @ 23:32pm. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. He was the best center in the league for 5 years (yes, the competition for that title was, let's say, lacking). The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? The Clash: 10/10 Alice Cooper Chicago Bob Seger: 7/10 Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. Red Hot Chili Peppers Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 18:33pm. Handy, Roy Brown, Charley Patton, Lightin Hopkins, Percy Mayfield, Big Mama Thornton and Cab Calloway as well as a few jazz singers like Ornette Coleman, Lee Morgan, and Bill Evens. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. Yes- 4 But he's not better than Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan. 3) THE FOUR TOPS at # 79 This site is not affiliated in any way with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum "Determination" The Contours. Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 05/11/2019 @ 04:26am. "Way Over There" The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr. I could have sworn it was the other way around. If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. Talking Heads DEFINITELY !! "Got A Job" The Marcels It would only make sense, since the next 4 are not perfect multiples of 12 anymore. Now that the lower tiers are no longer multiples is 12, is anyone ever going to move up from 4 to 5? 166. The Beach Boys 5 Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. 106. 2002 Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 08:03am, Deep Purple/NWA- Level 2 Skip to primary content. http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award Solomon Burke Gary - "quality" is a matter of taste, and if you don't like Ray Charles' music, there's no argument to be made over that. They influenced pretty much all 90's hard rock and metal. achieve Hall of Fame status in. Bob Marley or Jimmy Cliff If he keeps pushing for 3-4 more years and the Warriors get back to being contenders and Steph stays as a Top 10 guy in the league, he's moving up into the Dirk range and maybe the Pantheon. "Got A Job" The Marcels 76. 43. Was this OKCs Apex Mountain? The Doors Steely Dan: 8/10 Randy Newman Carl Perkins: 10/10 Cream: 9/10 Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? Posts about Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid written by fjdbookreview. SEE FOR YOURSELF !! 14. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:13pm, ** THE MIRACLESand why they SHOULD be Level 4:** Electric Light Orchestra - 1 Roy Orbison 163. https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. Most nicest inductee? 9. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? Bernard King, 66. You hate the way he plays. 1/10 = Not even worth of mention The Kinks: 10/10 My point is that there are many other people who influenced the influencers farther down on the pyramid. 67. Beat induction year: 1986, 1988, 1994, 2014, Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:30pm, Posted by coletrain on Wednesday, 04/30/2014 @ 08:31am, The Pyramid has been updated with this year's inductees. 211. The Bee Gees: 9/10 13. "Darling Dear" The Jackson Five. Elvis Costello & The Attractions: 9/10 1987 T-Bone Walker And believe it or not, but I actually like them. Eric Clapton: 9/10 Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:09am. Bill breaks it down with his former ESPN colleague J.A. 37. Pearl Jam - 3 or 4 (there could be an argument as to why they should be a 3, but they are at least a 3), Posted by Nick on Monday, 07/31/2017 @ 11:46am, That's kinda easy for most of the 2017 class - Not one bad inductee among either class. The Stooges 7. That's Level 5. Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 16:03pm. Gail Goodrich, 100. Bobby Womack Van Halen: 9/10, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 01:33am, Final part of rating the performers. Again, just ANOTHER REASON why THE MIRACLES should be at Level 4 !!! 85. Bill Withers I've got him in between Walton and Barry who also got a team over the top without any other presumed Pyramid guys, but didn't string together a run like the guys in Level 4 and Level 5. 107. I don't want to make this 3,000 words so a brief blurb on each player who made a move is below, but happy to answer any questions in the comments. King In the since this pyramid was first devised the lower levels have been filled with new inductees and they are certainly not multiples of 12 anymore. All-Star Game Selections by Player; All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player; All-Defensive Team Selections by Player; Referee Awards. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. Send a Message. Talented as hell, but weird as hell. John R.C., 1999 The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. My favorite inductees: Elton John, Billy Joel, Rush, Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Neil Young, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors and several others. NO WAY should they just be at Level 3. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band: 3/10 Isaac Hayes: 7/10 Is the top rung ever going to be added to? "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. 102. Oscar Robertson, 10. Most weird inductee? Cheap Trick - 1 Please answer the best you can. Carly Simon (Level 1) Rush- 4 -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. 144. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Level 4 Both won MVP. 2020: Nicest inductee: Buddy Holly [if he was still alive], Queen, Roger Daltery, Tony Iommi, Fats Domino. 14. Nate Thurmond, 51. 8. Dennis Rodman. Cheap Trick "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. :) Difficult to say. The Beatles should be level 0, abd Poison moves up to level 5. Bill Walton. 126. Quietest inductee: Brian May, George Harrison, James Taylor. 19. 57. John Lennon should be moved way, way down. Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. Dire Straits John Fogerty (CCR), Ike Turner, Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Van Halen, Axl Rose, and Mike Love (Beach Boys) 68. Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: The Stooges Level 2: 2005 was pretty good too. -You can place as many artists as you want at each level, however each level must have equal to more of the amount of artists than the level before it (For example: Level 1 can have 1 artist, Level 2 can have 3 artists, Level 3 can then have 3 artists also, but Level 4 can't have 2 or less, but it can have 3 or more. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:30pm. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Chic The Ronettes Gotta say, pretty bad ranking. I blame the clowns on the committee for it - but Deep Purple should be on this list AND at level 3. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. Posted by John R.C. "Save Me" The Undertones I understand their attempts, and respect it to some degree. Elton John: 10/10 Jay-Z -Level 3 The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro These questions and more are broken down in our first Pyramid Podcast with The Ringers Ryen Russillo. 172. Most civilized: One that was added this year, Peter Gabriel. Sorry but the Sex Pistols are way overrated. 160. It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. Percy Sledge But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. But the biggest question about Harden remainsand it wont be answered until the playoffs. Tina Turner-Level 1 Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 21:00pm, Here's part 2 of the rating the performers. Crosby Stills and Nash 1986 Jimmy Yancey The Police I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Carly Simon (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 15:49pm. 210. David Bowie should be moved up to the top of the fourth level. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 08/22/2018 @ 19:01pm. Most snubbed before being inducted: Black Sabbath, The Stooges, Hall & Oates, Neil Diamond, Alice Copper, Buffalo Springfield. - I made it an actual pyramid so each level contains fewer players than the previous level. Al Green Best outside US and UK: If Canada counts, then Rush, if Canada doesn't count, then ABBA. "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. -Philip 2017 Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. 3/10 = Mediocre 6. Sure, they influenced Green Day and some others. 131. I kept the same ratio. Lou Reed: 7/10 - See more at: http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 12:43pm. Bob Dylan. Santana: 8/10 Sam and Dave 69. Posted by Mat r on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 16:32pm, Level 1: Wilt, 6. Lloyd Price: 4/10 Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts I like to use the pages devoted to my favorite artists to inform other posters and hopefully get them interested enough in pursuing earlier eras of music. Fourth Level Man, Eddie Adams Jr steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN Friday! 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